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Charter proposal for infrastructure lifecycle wg #691

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@GenPage GenPage commented Jun 17, 2024

This PR includes the content of the Charter definition for the Infrastrucutre Lifecycle Working Group. The content was discussed in the following google doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eK7m13F8SHuL2ji0U__5S_dlD2UBX0POquj6AtBWkoc/edit

@lianmakesthings @thschue @roberthstrand Let me know what you think

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Yay! 🙌🏼

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Charter looks good. I would like to have a sync on how we should go about selecting the chairs for the working group, so that is part of request to the TOC.

DCO also needs to be resolved. So if you could follow this recipe @GenPage, that would be awesome.

@GenPage GenPage force-pushed the infra-lifecycle-wg branch 2 times, most recently from fa9b6be to 4fdc4bd Compare June 26, 2024 04:00
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GenPage commented Jun 26, 2024

@roberthstrand Sounds good, I'll put it on the agenda for this friday. Also rebased to fixed the DCO check.

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GenPage commented Jul 26, 2024

@roberthstrand pending our discussion after the general meeting. I've added the chairs to the charter proposal

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Thank you @GenPage, I will bring this along to the TOC.


## Working mode/expected outcome

The Infrastructure Lifecycle Working Group will achieve its goals through regular meetings ([Zoom](https://zoom-lfx.platform.linuxfoundation.org/meeting/96148400770?password=767d45df-c7cf-4400-9239-e789115cc85e&invite=true)), open communication channels ([#wg-infrastructure-lifecycle](https://cloud-native.slack.com/archives/C06USDTN683) on Slack), and collaboration with other TAGs. This will result in a standardised approach for managing the lifecycle of infrastructure in a cloud-native setting, develop a set of comprehensive best practices, and publish valuable resources for the cloud-native community around infrastructure lifecycle management
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Hi, could you specify what is the success criteria of the WG? I'd like to understand when we should continue or discontinue the WG.

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Hello @linsun, I'm not sure if this is something that we intend to define in the charter itself as I haven't seen examples of this in other WG charters. Do you have any examples? I happy to bring to up for discussion in our next WG meeting.

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@linsun Actually, @TheFoxAtWork left some excellent comments about the stated goals of the WG in the charter that I think we could clarify and address, which would also address your question. Please let me know what you think.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eK7m13F8SHuL2ji0U__5S_dlD2UBX0POquj6AtBWkoc/edit?disco=AAABOxARaAk

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Thank you, I will follow up in the google doc :)

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Hi @linsun, we’ve narrowed the working group’s scope to a single deliverable: developing a framework for managing infrastructure lifecycles in public, private, or hybrid cloud environments based on cloud-native principles. This framework will ensure that infrastructure is secure, resilient, manageable, sustainable, and observable. :)

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Originally, the Platform Working Group focused on clarifying the coordination between application development and infrastructure delivery. While this remains important, the group's focus has evolved to consider platforms as complete products. This broader perspective necessitates a renewed emphasis on the underlying infrastructure abstractions that provide the essential building blocks for these platform offerings

Love this! I am very excited to have more WGs allowing for more deep investigation into the pieces of successful cloud native adoption/delivery.

Once all accepted, let's find time to talk about some of the more infra focused open topics raised over the last couple of years in the platform WG and see if they fit with your early work.


## Meetings

* Meeting schedule: Bi-weekly on Friday at [1600 UTC](https://dateful.com/convert/utc?t=16)
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If it's helpful, we just had a learning that pinning to UTC is difficult for people. They end up with this clashing 6 months of the year. For that reason we decided to switch to pinning to London time (though really any timezone with daylight savings would work).

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Thank you for flagging this @abangser, I've addressed it in ae3687e, 96e6e25.

Signed-off-by: Bruno Schaatsbergen <[email protected]>
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We've addressed comments and feedback, and the charter has been updated.

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LGTM

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LGTM, just left 1-2 comments about number of leads and focus of clouds

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linsun commented Aug 26, 2024

I approve assuming TAG app delivery co-chairs are also in favor of this cc @lianmakesthings @roberthstrand @thschue

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LGTM

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+1 binding

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bschaatsbergen commented Aug 28, 2024

+1 binding

Thanks, @kgamanji. I noticed that your vote isn't reflected on the TOC issue in the binding votes. Just wanted to bring it to your attention.

## Chairs

- Bruno Schaatsbergen (@bschaatsbergen)
- Dylan Page (@genpage)
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@GenPage has agreed to withdraw his chair nomination in favour of becoming TAG TL and liaison to the WG

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Fixed in ac93684

@bschaatsbergen bschaatsbergen dismissed stale reviews from kgamanji and linsun via ac93684 August 29, 2024 09:53
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Vote passed by the TOC, cncf/toc#1383 (comment) 🎉

@lianmakesthings lianmakesthings merged commit 36b58ea into cncf:main Sep 3, 2024
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