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Feature request: Always give fortification bonus if a unit does not move. #12330

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The-Talik opened this issue Oct 21, 2024 · 6 comments
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Before creating

  • This is NOT a gameplay feature from Civ VI, BNW, or outside - see Roadmap
  • This is NOT a gameplay feature from Vanilla Civ V or from G&K - If so, it should be a comment in Missing features from Civ V - G&K #4697

Problem Description

From an practical perspective, there is no benefit for fortifiable units to ever "wait", other than the UI annoyance of not having to find them and wake them up next turn. Since there is no downside to fortifying, the tactical move is to always fortify, and never click wait, even if you plan on moving next round. Right now, we have "wait" = "I want to move this unit next turn", and "forify" = "I don't want to move this unit next turn plus defensive bonus". We should be able to choose to keep our unit in the queue, and still get the fortification bonus.

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Units should be considered fortified if they meet the criteria (ie, did nothing else that round), even if you clicked wait. This basically decouples fortification bonus, from "I want to move/view this unit next turn".

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Alternatively, a "fortify for 1 rnd" button could be added, but it seems less confusing just to auto apply the bonus if the criteria is met.

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sulai commented Oct 22, 2024

Right now, we have "wait" = "I want to move this unit next turn"

Related: #12308

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Fortify will fortify the unit until you stop fortifying them. The defensive bonus also isn't given immediately. It takes a few turns for it to get to 100%.

Having a unit sit there doing nothing should not provide any defensive bonus.

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itanasi commented Oct 27, 2024

As @Ouaz notes in #12308, this button was supposed to place the Idle Unit at the end of the queue so that you could come back to them. Next Unit should be the Skip Unit, do no action button.

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RobLoach commented Oct 27, 2024

I usually use the Next Unit button when I want to do that 🙃

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Fortify will fortify the unit until you stop fortifying them. The defensive bonus also isn't given immediately. It takes a few turns for it to get to 100%.

Having a unit sit there doing nothing should not provide any defensive bonus.

The case in point is that it would be nice to be able to have a unit fortify, but ALSO be in the next turn's queue so you don't forget about them.

Fortification is a game mechanic.
Sleep is a UI convenience.

From a game mechanic standpoint, there is no downside to fortifying a unit that does not move, which is why it should happen automatically.

@The-Talik The-Talik changed the title Feature request: Wait button should give fortification bonus if applicable Feature request: new title: Always give fortification bonus if a unit does not move. (-Wait button should give fortification bonus if applicable-) Oct 27, 2024
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Updated the title because this request isn't really about the behavior of the wait button.

@yairm210 yairm210 changed the title Feature request: new title: Always give fortification bonus if a unit does not move. (-Wait button should give fortification bonus if applicable-) Feature request: Always give fortification bonus if a unit does not move. Oct 27, 2024
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