diff --git a/pkg/manager/manager.go b/pkg/manager/manager.go
index c7b55540e..68e9fa7ff 100644
--- a/pkg/manager/manager.go
+++ b/pkg/manager/manager.go
@@ -27,6 +27,8 @@ type ManagerOptions struct {
 	Baground bool
 }
 
+var logLevel uint = 9
+
 func UpStack(targetStack Stack, opts ...ManagerOptions) (auto.UpResult, error) {
 	return UpStackTargets(targetStack, nil, opts...)
 }
@@ -38,11 +40,14 @@ func UpStackTargets(targetStack Stack, targetURNs []string, opts ...ManagerOptio
 	// TODO add when loglevel debug control in place
 	w := logging.GetWritter()
 	defer w.Close()
-	var logLevel uint = 10
 	mOpts := []optup.Option{
 		optup.ProgressStreams(w),
 		optup.DebugLogging(
-			debug.LoggingOptions{LogLevel: &logLevel}),
+			debug.LoggingOptions{
+				LogLevel:      &logLevel,
+				Debug:         true,
+				FlowToPlugins: true,
+				LogToStdErr:   true}),
 	}
 	if len(targetURNs) > 0 {
 		mOpts = append(mOpts, optup.Target(targetURNs))
@@ -64,8 +69,16 @@ func DestroyStack(targetStack Stack, opts ...ManagerOptions) (err error) {
 	objectStack := getStack(ctx, targetStack)
 	w := logging.GetWritter()
 	defer w.Close()
-	stdoutStreamer := optdestroy.ProgressStreams(w)
-	if _, err := objectStack.Destroy(ctx, stdoutStreamer); err != nil {
+	// stdoutStreamer := optdestroy.ProgressStreams(w)
+	mOpts := []optdestroy.Option{
+		optdestroy.ProgressStreams(w),
+		optdestroy.DebugLogging(
+			debug.LoggingOptions{
+				LogLevel:      &logLevel,
+				FlowToPlugins: true,
+				LogToStdErr:   true}),
+	}
+	if _, err := objectStack.Destroy(ctx, mOpts...); err != nil {
 		logging.Error(err)
 		os.Exit(1)
 	}