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Missing ORCID ID for Author, with 2 Different Surname Spellings #118
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Oh brother, names are hard. Thank you for reporting this. We'll have to think about how to resolve this. For now, you can disable validation of the file by passing Side note: Can you copy-paste from the terminal output rather than putting the image in the issue? Thanks! |
If I understand correctly, the author's name differs between the ORCID record and the paper? That's a challenge, and a mixup a bit beyond our control. If I recall correctly, depending on whether an author ORCID is provided, there are two behaviors:
When the names differ between the article and ORCID, I'm not really sure what to do. (This issue of names being hard to check and be unique is what ORCID is supposed to solve, but not everyone has one, nor do most historical articles have them associated.) I did a quick check of the CrossRef record for the article, and this is what I get for the author in question:
@anthonymstohr can you confirm that when you have the author name entered as given there, with the ORCID, that you get an error? |
Thank you @bryanwweber @kyleniemeyer Using the author name as given there, with the ORCID ID, gives an error. With the ORCID ID, the user warning does not appear as it does when one does not include her ORCID ID. |
Ah, I see. So while the CrossRef record includes the ORCID, the name in that record does not match the name at ORCID. Very strange. @anthonymstohr if you remove the ORCID, and enter the name as given just above from the CrossRef record, does that work without error? If not, we may need to reduce some of the ORCID checking, or somehow account for these weird cases. |
@kyleniemeyer Tried a number of combinations of including the ORCID and various names (dropping the initial, Al vs. El, Rashidi vs. Rachidi) but none seem to work. |
@anthonymstohr I would expect that if you used the name as written in the CrossRef API output (i.e., the output the @kyleniemeyer showed), and don't include the ORCID, then it should work, and should just give you a warning that this person has an ORCID and we recommend including it. Can you confirm that's the behavior that you get? This appears to be a transliteration problem, where a journal has put the name one way, but the person prefers to spell it another way on their ORCID. I'm really not sure how we solve this problem. Maybe we just need to make all of this name checking to be warnings instead of Exceptions? That way, at least something like this isn't a showstopper, and I expect this will actually be a fairly common problem... |
Sorry for the delay; removing the ORCID and using the name shown above does indeed work. Thank you for your assistance. |
Issue:
The lead author for this ChemKED file has her name spelled differently on her paper and her ORCID record (Mariam J. Al Rashidi vs. Mariam El Rachidi). Neither spelling works when trying to validate the file.
Input:
cyclopentane_rashidi_RCM_phi_0.5.zip
Expected behavior:
That it successfully validates the ChemKED file.
Actual behavior, including any error messages:
This result only appears if using the author's name as written in the paper. Attempting to use the author's name as listed on her ORCID record, or including her ORCID ID in the ChemKED file, returns the same error as above, but without the user warning.
PyKED/ChemKED version: 4.1, Python version 3.6.6
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