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Alternate characters #20

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larsenwork opened this issue Mar 18, 2015 · 23 comments
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Alternate characters #20

larsenwork opened this issue Mar 18, 2015 · 23 comments
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Drawing

  • l with hook
  • i with hook
  • g that looks like 👓
  • u with stem
  • single story a
  • closed 4
  • curly y
  • Conventional @ sign
  • Dotted zero
  • Curved 6
  • Curved 9
  • Old Style Numerals

Other suggestions?

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Merging #17 #16 into this issue to keep them in the same place

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A closed "4" glyph.

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Also a single storey "a" glyph.

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screen shot 2015-03-19 at 12 51 40

Work in progress

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Anyone know of a pretty way to make æ that matches the single storey a?

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First draft g - not sure I'll spend too much time on it as I don't really think that style suits the typeface...maybe someone else can improve on it :)
screen shot 2015-03-19 at 13 55 14

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Excellent implementation so far. Especially the single storey "a", the stemmed "u", the tailed "l" and the alternate "y" glyphs.

The "g" I am not so sure about, will definitely need a sample at a few sizes along with use in either words or sentences for me to determine if it's out of place.

Regarding the "æ" grapheme using a single storey "a". I did a quick search of notable typefaces that use a single storey "a" which are ITC Avant Garde Gothic, Futura and Helvetica SchoolBook.

  1. ITC Avant Garde Gothic (http://myfonts.us/td-1sLQqV) and Helvetica SchoolBook (http://myfonts.us/td-x40SOU) use a single storey "a" grapheme. Personally I think it looks strange and foreign (then again being English I don't natively use it).
  2. Futura (http://myfonts.us/td-ta7Y8V) doesn't bother at all and uses a standard spurless double storey "a" for the grapheme.

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æ: Futura was also the first font I looked at and maybe something I'll try. Helvetica is a whole different style and the æ in ITC avant garde is definitely not drawn by someone who uses it themselves - I'm danish, so I use it and also why I'm maybe a bit picky about not just adding a different style just for the sake of it.

g: very unsure myself. You can open this in a fontviewer (e.g. fontbook on mac) to see it (should be at the end) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3019777/Gidole-Regular.ttf

I have looked at the g in source sans pro for inspiration but it's too "caligraphic"

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I think they blend in quite seamlessly :) uploaded version 2.0.1 with alternate a, l, y and u.
screen shot 2015-03-19 at 16 06 20

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With that preview in mind. I like the new "l".

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About the "l" - I tried making the hook on the l a bit wider but didn't look right so I think I'll stick to this for now until someone suggests something better

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I have thoroughly gone through that .ttf and I can't find the double storey "g".

Anyway I am very impressed by the PDF file. Well done on that, though grateful has only 1 "l" and sure has no "h" (quirks of the English language).

Looking through the PDF, I would love a more traditional "@" symbol to accompany the lovely new single storey "a" glyph.

Gidole is looking much better now. I love stylistic alternates! :-D

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I always spell sure wrong...I blame the microphones...don't know where that extra l came from though, thanks for that!

Just updated https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3019777/Gidole-Regular.ttf so that g is now style set 5.

The alternate a definitely needs a different @, added to the list

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First draft for the alt @ sign - I need to do something about the narrow curve from stem to big circle but other than that pretty happy.
screen shot 2015-03-20 at 03 32 44

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A bit more rounded and in context:
screen shot 2015-03-20 at 04 47 35

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ylu

These might actually be the default characters - depending on how the vote over at #22 goes

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Very impressive work. I took the liberty of viewing Gidole on FontBook for OS X. These alternate characters are coming along nicely.

I was wondering if I can add oldstyle text figures to the suggestion box.

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Thx added to the list but probably no the first thing I'll make but who knows

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Can I also add a tailed "i" to follow the tailed "l"?

Similar to ITC Johnston: https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/itc/johnston/std-medium/glyphs.html#glyphs/538914/323

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jup, should be quick to create

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although the hook/tail should only be as big/long as on the l and not as in the example you've shown me, right?

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I think that it will work if the tail is duplicated on the "i" glyph. Yeah.

Trying sampling it with the word "liability". :-)

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merging this into a wishlist issue

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