http://flowplayer.org/tools/demos/scrollable/navigation.html - is this still required?

[alibby251]

I've come across this page as part of troubleshooting an issue - I'm not sure it is still valid?

[phloxic]

It's not needed because it's broken :-(
Try:
http://flowplayer.org/tools/scrollable/index.html#plugins
It should go to the plugins item, but it doesn't. Hash navigation is broken by:
a69f655e537bab8cadb33000021b6daaadf084c4

[bradrobertson]

that commit link gives a 404, can you point me in the right direction and i'll get it fixed up?

[phloxic]

This is not a fix, and jquerytools are the culprit, trying full link:
jquerytools/jquerytools@a69f655
The changes to tools.navigator.js break hash navigation.
I was successful for some setups by just backing out the changes to navigator while leaving everything else at the most recent state. But I am not sure whether it breaks other stuff.
Tero seems to want to abolish navigator - by breaking it ;-)
Hash navigation can be scripted without navigator on your own, but then it should not be advertised - or used on the jquerytools pages themselves. And the non-backwards compatible change should be announced.

[bradrobertson]

ya I noticed that he's using pushState now and does not adjust the href at all in the process. This definitely removes the old hashchange behavior. I could possibly implement something similar using pushState and hashes, though pushState is only supported by modern browsers.

I wonder how many people want this to work for IE < 9 ? In its current state, I can't see that it would.

[phloxic]

Isn't push state about history?
Changes wrt history should not break existing navigation functionality - hash navi worked also in IE before, only history: true had no effect I guess.

[bradrobertson]

ya pushState is the newer implementation of using hash changes. So yes it's all about history, it's just a more robust implementation that allows you to adjust the window.location without using hashes and without doing a refresh. Problem is, it's not adjusting the url right now in the navigator plugin, so even though forward/back buttons work, if you refreshed, you'd just get the root element.

I'm wondering though what the current state of navigation is in IE since Tero made that change. I don't have easy access to a PC, are you able to check IE7 or IE8 with the scrollable navigator and see what you get?

[alibby251]

From what I know, based on emails from Tero - Tero is looking to drop the Toolbox part of Tools, as I don't think it sits very well architecturally, within the Tools toolset. This would affect History, which I think he is replacing with pushState. I think there may be elements of functionality within this part of Tools that will be superseded by newer, more reliable functionality in version 2, so whilst Toolbox will go, the more useful elements will remain, but as part of other tools in the library.

As far as I know, pushState is very much HTML5, so I'm not sure if or how it would work in IE, in browsers lower than IE9? I'm happy to help test as well if you need it?