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MacOS: If sound I/O changed after launch, changes not reflected settings #1065
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The problem description is confusing. It seems to be a duplicate of #711, but may be describing:
The request seems to be that changes to Mac System Preferences should result in an automatic change in Jamulus settings. I disagree, except in this example, which is slightly (but importantly) different from above:
But for that to work, Jamulus may need to be regularly rescanning for audio devices and/or responding to a system message that the System device has changed. @Skeezixes Have I correctly described your request? |
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Yes. Jamulus wouldn’t have to poll System Settings tho, would it?
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On Nov 16, 2020, at 11:01, Chris Rimple ***@***.***> wrote:
The problem description is confusing. It seems to be a duplicate of #711, but may be describing:
Mac user opens Sys Prefs > Sound and sets Input = Built-In Mic and Output = Built-In Speakers
User runs Jamulus and sets Device = in:Built-In Mic/out:Built-In Speakers
User opens Sys Prefs > Sound and sets Input = Apple Airpods and Output = Apple Airpods
Jamulus continues using Built-In Mic and Built-In Speakers
The request seems to be that changes to Mac System Preferences should result in an automatic change in Jamulus settings. I disagree, except in this example, which is slightly (but importantly) different from above:
Mac user opens Sys Prefs > Sound and sets Input = Built-In Mic and Output = Built-In Speakers
User runs Jamulus and sets Device = in:System/out:System
User opens Sys Prefs > Sound and sets Input = Apple Airpods and Output = Apple Airpods
Jamulus switches to use Apple Airpods
But for that to work, Jamulus may need to be regularly rescanning for audio devices and/or responding to a system message that the System device has changed.
@Skeezixes Have I correctly described your request?
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Don't know, depends on whether MacOS is sending "change" message to which Jamulus can respond when there's a change to System sound settings. If not, then Jamulus would need to occasionally "scan" for device changes, maybe every 60 seconds when the Setup window has focus (or similar). |
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If MacOS doesn't send change notifications, I feel it would be sufficient to update the sound devices when entering the Settings menu. |
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This sounds like a good solution to me.
Leigh
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On Nov 17, 2020, at 17:05, kwindrem ***@***.***> wrote:
If MacOS doesn't send change notifications, I feel it would be sufficient to update the sound devices when entering the Settings menu.
You could also provide a "Refresh List" as the first item in the list.
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I have created a Mac beta version of Jamulus where the problem should hopefully be fixed. Can you please test this version is provide me with your feedback: #727 (comment) |
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Is this the issue that was fixed in the 3.6.2? If so I guess we can close? |
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No, this issue is still open. There is a workaround for this issue by selecting any driver from the list. After that the list is refreshed. But it would be better to get a system notification from the MacOS which teills Jamulus that a sound card device change has happened and that we then can refresh the list. |
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I think this issue is much broader than just on macOS. d8a5c6f introduced a bug on Windows. We will probably need re think this and introduce something like a "reload device list" feature on Windows and macOS. |
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@ann0see Does this need further discussion or can we turn this ticket into an action as described #181 (comment) (ie system notification) |
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This issue is still important. No idea yet how/what to do. Somebody more knowledgeable should have a look at this? I'd leave it open |
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OK but if it's not an actionable thing that somebody can pick up and reasonably work on, then it should really be in discussions. We need to start assigning issues to projects and milestones at some point (once we've got a road map of some kind). |
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Yeah ok. So just convert it. |
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I agree that this can move to a conversation. This problem isn't resolved, but it's better with 3.6.2's "error message on startup if prior audio device is no longer available". I think there is an open question about whether this issue should be resolved - specifically:
By (1) "listening" for a system message from MacOS that a change has been made, or maybe (2) polling regularly for changes, the Jamulus client could know that a change has happened. But should it react? I can good reasons yes and no. However, this feels like a low-frequency use case for which there is an easy workaround (in Jamulus client, change Device to what's desired), so it's a very low-priority request. |
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OK, so unless anyone else wants to argue for the contrary, we can leave it here and maybe close off eventually otherwise. |
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not sure if this has been resolved, I have a question about similar issue though, i use iPhone client to connect to my local server, connection is fine, then I connect my airpod to my iPhone, this setup is to allow me to sing with my friends over internet, but iphone does not pick up the voice from my airpod, if I disconnect my airpod, jamulus will pick up sound from the iPhone microphone, I wonder how can I make the airpod work as voice input to jamulus client? any hint is very much appreciated. |
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It will probably introduce a lot of delay. Also the AirPod microphone is as far as I remember quite bad. |
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I'd buy a 10€ Lightning/USB headphone jack adapter and use wired headphones if you can't use an interface |
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Start Jamulus client and open Settings. On my Mac laptop the default options are In: built-in mic Out: built-in speakers. Then, I go to System Preferences and choose options other than these, close the System Preferences window and go back to Jamulus and open Settings. The new settings are not reflected in the dropdown list of options. They remain the same as before. Quit Jamulus client, leaving the settings in System Preferences what you have changed them to.
Open Jamulus client and Settings. The new options show up in the dropdown list of options.
If you don't understand what's happening, that Jamulus doesn't update changes to input/output but only fetches the status at launch, it really causes all sorts of confusion and difficulty. Please fix.
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