+ [speaker-0] Hey, everyone, and welcome to Live At Spotify, the podcast, where we bring you behind the scenes of what it's like to work and learn at Spotify. +
++ I'm your host, Tilo Seguero. And in this episode, we're gonna talk about women in Engineering. +
++ Engineering still continues to be a male dominated field, and many women find it challenging to not only access education, but also to navigate their career thoughts once they enter the industry. +
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++ [speaker-1] I didn't started out saying to myself, oh, I wanted the energy gear. I don't even think growing up on who anybody was interested in. Where is that work? +
++ I got into engineering very late in life. +
++ I was a stay at home mom. I raised my son. +
++ And then, before doing that I was, in a PhD program for physics that I dropped out and then, Grand Marie, and half kids, and I raised my son. And then I decided to go back to school. +
++ I wanted to do something more tangible this time. And so I did some research and end up deciding to study electrical Engineering. And that's how I got into engineering. +
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++ [speaker-2] And I think the reason I ended up here is because I, when I chose it, I didn't know what it was. +
++ And the math part of it incentivized me to go for it because I was like, this is my strong suit. And I do like people and like, I'll try it. And I think that if I had known how technical it was or that it was labeled more like that, I might have not gone for it. And I'm really happy that I did, and I didn't stop myself from choosing this journey. +
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++ [speaker-0] So today, we're gonna be exploring the journeys of 2 incredible women from our end team in New York, and they are here not only to give us a glimpse of their parts to Spotify, but also to share some advice for women looking to enter the world of tech Engineering. +
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++ [speaker-1] Hi. I'm Adele Lukbo. I'm in staff engineers, Spotify. +
++ I'm based in New York. I work for the platform this year. +
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++ [speaker-2] Hi. I'm Sasha Holstanias. I'm about an engineer working in the personalization mission. I work on the podcast recommendations, and I'm located in New York. +
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++ [speaker-0] Thank you so much for being with us here today, Adele and Sasha. I'm so excited to be chatting with both of you today especially on this topic of women in engineering. How are you both feeling? +
++ [speaker-2] Good. Thank you for having me. Fine. +
++ [speaker-1] Thank you for having us here. +
++ [speaker-0] So, Adele, you're supporting the platform mission and Sasha here with the personalization mission. +
++ Right? Can you both tell us a little bit more about what these missions are all about? +
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++ [speaker-2] Yeah. +
++ Sure. +
++ So personalization, we work with, like, making sure that the recommendations that we serve users, both on, like, music and podcasts, are tailored to their individual taste. So this is like a pretty big mission that will work on different areas and all together, like, make sure that that experience is serving that specific user what they wanna consume. +
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++ [speaker-0] Thanks, Sasha. What about the platform mission, Nada? +
++ [speaker-1] The platform mission at Spotify is the department that, focus more on the infrastructure, we are beyond the same. We don't see palpable things from, platform mission, from the customer point of view. So we take care of things related to runtime environment of our software, the resources, security. +
++ I worked with a tribe that focuses on the infrastructure. So in my driveway, run things related to run down environment, storage, And, sometime we also work on thing really developer experience, and that's what I'm +
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