Introduce yourself: Welcome! Willkommen! Bienvenue!

[betatim]

This isn't a one person project, probably not even a five person project. We need help!

If you want to become a co-proponent for submitting this to the openscienceprize make yourself known here. In particular I'd like to hear from you if you are an "individual or group based in the United States".

Independent of the openscienceprize, make yourself known in this issue if you want to collaborate on making this happen.

[anaderi]

+1

[betatim]

@ctb is on board (see #17)

[ctb]

(and I am in the US :)

[khinsen]

I am very interested in this project, but I am not in the US.

[tritemio]

I think the proposal is great and I would like to participate. I'm preparing for a big conference and I'm very busy until March 2nd. I can maybe get more involved in the second phase. I'm not a PI but US-based.

[betatim]

Hello everyone!

[cranmer]

Definitely interested, this overlaps a lot with what we are doing for recast project, dockerizing stuff, workflows, etc. We demonstrated something to @arfon about a year ago where a GitHub pull request kicked off the automated running of the workflow and pushed the result to zenodo. I can comment some on the thinking about the research products, DOIs, and citation stuff as well. Also, I registered http://satyrn.org with this in mind.

[cranmer]

@lukasheinrich

[lukasheinrich]

i'm in. I did comment a couple of weeks back but then got snowed in with ATLAS stuff :-/

[rougier]

Hello everyone,

I'm interested as well.

[Repositorian]

hello! I'm a Library manager at Caltech and am watching this idea grow with great interest! We are developing our own instance of Zenodo with CERN to help our researchers disseminate, curate, measure impact of, preserve, and promote wide sharing of their non traditional research outputs. I've shared some tidbits with Titus but may also add comments here. Am currently at Research Data Alliance in Tokyo working on legal interoperability of research data and software across jurisdictions. Also listening in on the outputs of the working group on data publication and data citation.

[betatim]

Hi, yes please, share your ideas! Feel free to look around the currently open issues and if there isn't one that looks fitting create a new one. I also listed you here together with others that have expressed interest in the idea.

[Repositorian]

Anyone reaching out to John Hammersly at Overleaf? I can do so if ok: we're collaborating with them on scientific authoring including new forms of grad theses.

[betatim]

Can~~'t~~ relocate the discussion right now but the feeling was to wait before contacting figshare, overleaf and co.

[RaoOfPhysics]

Happy to jump on board to help with comms. matters. :)

[ariddell]

This is great. I'm happy to help.

Two very new projects perhaps worth mentioning:

• The Winnower is very similar to figshare but more focused on text.
• The archiving component of The Winnower is called CLOCKSS, which is a reference to LOCKSS ("Lots of copies keep stuff safe"). (Am I right that there's no explicit mention of archiving in the proposal right now?)

[khinsen]

We mention Zenodo for DOIs, but that also implies archiving. I don't know CLOCKSS, but we can certainly look at is as an alternative.

[Repositorian]

If an archiving solution is to be named, strongly rec DPN. That is the best of breed right now in digital preservation community. Caltech, Figshare, many research libraries on board. http://www.dpn.org/

[Repositorian]

Also clarifying that it is DataCite that creates the DOIs, and any repository or archive can devise their own path to mint DOIs. Figshare, Zenodo exemplify this but a researcher can get a DOI via their own institution, eg Caltech.

[ariddell]

@khinsen I forgot that Zenodo lets you upload arbitrary files. "Trust us, we're from CERN" might be enough in this case. It would, however, be nice to be explicit about how things will be stored long-term, especially for large data files.

[Repositorian]

I believe Zenodo relies on Amazon? That is what they told us

[khinsen]

@Repositorian What made Zenodo and figshare instantly popular is their simplicity: you upload data, add some metadata, and get your DOI. Is anyone else offering this level of simplicity?

As for DPN, a quick look at their Web site suggests that "end users" don't deal with them at all. Did I get this right?

[khinsen]

@Repositorian My understanding is that Zenodo is backed completely by CERN's own machines. They don't say that so explicitly, but they say:

Your research output is stored safely for the future in same cloud infrastructure as research data from CERN's Large Hadron Collider and using CERN's battle-tested repository software INVENIO, which is used by some of the world's largest repositories such as INSPIRE HEP and CERN Document Server.

[Repositorian]

It is my understanding from the OAIS service model that Institutions are the preservation agents because individuals represent too big a point of failure. Trustedness and accountability more likely to be achieved at institutional level.

Sent from a tablet while on the go.

On Mar 1, 2016, at 4:48 AM, Konrad Hinsen <[email protected]mailto:[email protected]> wrote:

@Repositorianhttps://github.com/Repositorian My understanding is that Zenodo is backed completely by CERN's own machines. They don't say that so explicitly, but they say:

Your research output is stored safely for the future in same cloud infrastructure as research data from CERN's Large Hadron Collider and using CERN's battle-tested repository software INVENIO, which is used by some of the world's largest repositories such as INSPIRE HEP and CERN Document Server.

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[betatim]

👮 can I persuade you to move your discussion along to a new issue? 😄