Upgrade to chrome 60

[v3ss0n]

@rakuco Very nice to see crosswalk project moving onwards.

Can we upgrade crosswalk to chrome59 directly? It have many improvements : especially 20% average performance improvments for android.

[rakuco]

Erm, I don't think anyone has been working on Crosswalk for several months now, I only landed a patch or two to make sure it is still possible to check out the source code. Changing Chromium versions was one of the hardest parts of maintaining the project, so I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.

[v3ss0n]

should we try that? From the guides it seems quite straight forward for updating to downstream .
https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-website/wiki/Downstream-Chromium

[rakuco]

You're more than welcome to try :-) You should look at https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-website/wiki/Rebasing-our-forks instead though.

[v3ss0n]

thanks , sorry i was looking at wrong link.
I will give a try , had you tried before?

[rakuco]

Until Crosswalk stopped being maintained, yes.

[v3ss0n]

i am sorry , i thought it was not very hard .. are you interested to do if community can fund your effort?

[rakuco]

Not really, sorry, I already have a pretty demanding full-time day job :-)

[v3ss0n]

If anyone want to do that ? I will setup a bounty source.

[Altiano]

Chrome 60 has landed! It even has WebAssembly!

[mcfarljw]

I've spent a bit of time trying to get it rebased to Chrome 60. I ended up spawning a 32 vCPU Compute Engine Virtual Machine on Google to make compiling things faster. I've made progress, but it's still error after error and seems like it requires quite a bit of inside knowledge to really get it debugged and working.

[v3ss0n]

Wow , thank you so much @mcfarljw ,
There would be companies who would love to pay for your work , i would too .
Can you set up a https://www.patreon.com/ or indiegogo or bountysource ? I am going to attract other companies who i know using xwalk too.

[mcfarljw]

I'll post back with more information later this coming week. If I feel that I've got enough of a "proof of concept" then I'll get a funding source created for those of you who want to help out. Right now I've just been adjusting things, but that has involved a lot of changes that I don't fully understand or commenting things out with notes just to keep the build process moving.

[v3ss0n]

i think people from the mailing list can help , some developers still respond there .

[v3ss0n]

@mcfarljw any update on this ? if prototype is ready should start for sourcing.

[Githubxplabs]

When will update?

[jwriteclub]

Hello all. We're continuing to move xwalk forward and are almost complete with v59 merge. We'll tackle v60 after that. Anyone else who would like to co-ordinate work please let us know. Also, we can sponsor build infrastructure for this as well. Reach out on github or [email protected].

[v3ss0n]

Very good , what kind of help needed let us know .

[mcfarljw]

Sorry for the delayed reply. My biggest issue has been getting things structured in a way that allows for quickly making and testing my changes. It's not quite as friendly as using hot reloading with webpack 😺

@jwriteclub I've just connected up with you via email.

[v3ss0n]

awesome thanks guys for working together , good!!

[DevopsElectricJukebox]

loving your work, we would be very interested in the update and assisting however we can @jwriteclub I have dropped you an email

[ben-8409]

It's great you are stepping in here. We made the switch from Crosswalk to the native WebView and run into the issue of the many many non Google zertified phones out there (often from china, because the Google Services are not available there), that come with a customized WebView that is not updated throught the Play Store. Even recent phones as the UMI Z on Android 7.0 have a Chromium 52 WebView, but the biggest problem are Android 5 and 6 phones with even older WebViews.
I believe until that is fixed, there still is a need for crosswalk and it is really great that you guys are stepping in. If there is a way to assist or if you have anything to share, for example when the v59 branch you have is ready to use, drop us a line!

[v3ss0n]

Thats is the main reason we cannot drop crosswalk , not in near future , may be forever.
Thank you very much for continuing the work , please keep us posted.

[Nexum1]

I'm so excited to see crosswalk staying up to date. I just wanted to thank you all for your contributions to this amazing project!

[v3ss0n]

how its going @jwriteclub @mcfarljw ??

[Karolusrex]

See this fork to stay up to date with the chrome version: https://github.com/Arva/cordova-plugin-crosswalk-webview

[Nilos]

Did not find any code in that fork that updates the chrome version.

[v3ss0n]

@Karolusrex what it is about? thats nothing to do with crosswalk but only to do with cordova crosswalk .

[Karolusrex]

Oh yeah right, it's cordova specific. It will automatically use the built-in WebView if newer version is detected, otherwise use crosswalk. Thought it could come in handy for anyone using cordova and trying to have a newer version of Chrome.

[mcfarljw]

@Karolusrex I like it, but one of the big problems is that although the version of Chrome might be newer you still can't develop for any specific version.

@v3ss0n Not much progress has been made on my part. I have put numerous weekend hours into it, but it is complex and compilation times are slow when testing. I sent @jwriteclub an email back in the day but haven't heard back from them about their progress on the project.

[mahdi71]

i am in too , if someone can make the crosswalk or a server for build html apps i can make the website (like phonegap) for compiling and even revenue.
i mean . come on guys we have funding and support . just need someone who can make this crosswalk starting again.

[v3ss0n]

I tried to contact ks32 but his company contact form is not working.

[v3ss0n]

Anyone Interested in taking this job ? I think bounty of 5000$ for every release would be quite easy to get.

[mahdi71]

@v3ss0n i think the best way is to start a project on a freelancer site or something...

[v3ss0n]

I am from Myanmar , may of those sites dosen't support our country , we can only send funds.
So please someone do it?

[ks32]

Anyone Interested in taking this job ? I think bounty of 5000$ for every release would be quite easy to get.

I will be interested in this job. For rebasing crosswalk to chromium 64.

[v3ss0n]

@ks32 Please , we will fund you ,
i can contribute 1000$
@mahdi71 will fund too ?
Do you have paypal ?
please contact me : [email protected]

@garethbowen are you interested?

[mahdi71]

@ks32
@v3ss0n
i can not fund for two reason:
1- i live in iran > i can not have a paypal account or anything! (there are ways, but cost more)
2- i live in iran > 1000$ is a lot here > 1000$ = 100,000,000 Rial or 10,000,000 Toman in iran !

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i can only make a website like phonegap if you want to continue this project so we can make more money.
ps : also we need a better place to talk about this. at least an email or something.

[v3ss0n]

we need to setup email chain , anyone interested please email me to [email protected]

[v3ss0n]

i can only make a website like phonegap if you want to continue this project so we can make more money.

good we can get this help.

[v3ss0n]

@ks32 we are waiting for you , we are setting up mailing list.

[volkan-orhan]

Hello @ks32 ,
I reviewed your Docker file, but it just contains the environment to build crosswalk. What did you do to update chromium version of crosswalk?

[DiegoRRR]

( I don't mean to be pushy, but please can someone take a look at ks32/CrosswalkNative#2 and at least tell me if the error comes from my part or if it is a bug in Crosswalk. )

[hthetiot]

Link above has bad href

• crash: An error occured while executing doInBackground() ks32/CrosswalkNative#2

[v3ss0n]

Hello @ks32 can you reply on email?

[ks32]

Hello @ks32 can you reply on email?

Sure, let me know your email.

[rakuco]

While we at Intel appreciate everyone's interest in keeping Crosswalk alive, we've made it clear long ago that we are not going to do that ourselves.

This issue has evolved into multiple bug reports, forks, funding proposals and announcements, none of which have anything to do with the original Crosswalk project or Intel.

I'd like to wait until the end of next week (February 22 2019) for anyone interested in maintaining Crosswalk to find another channel to continue the communication, and after that I intend to lock and close this issue to avoid any possible confusion between what's discussed here and Intel.

[v3ss0n]

@ks32 i already did [email protected]

[v3ss0n]

@rakuco i would like to take over the project , what are the requirements. I have interest to fund this project financially.
This thread is moving towards a good future for Crosswalk , i believe you can clearly see that. If intel have no interest in crosswalk , i believe you guys should hand over instead of blocking the communications.-

[rakuco]

Nothing's changed in terms of requirements or anything -- everyone is free to fork Crosswalk, and continue maintaining and updating it.

[v3ss0n]

Handing over will be better than forking since people depending on this is staying here.

[garethbowen]

@rakuco Thanks for the heads up. I think there's still some useful communication happening here so it'd be awesome if you could hold off locking this issue for a little longer until the other communication channels are up and running.

I agree with @v3ss0n - the ideal solution would be continuing this repository without forking. Would Intel be open to transferring ownership of the repository, domain, and/or website to another owner?

[rakuco]

I think there's still some useful communication happening here so it'd be awesome if you could hold off locking this issue for a little longer until the other communication channels are up and running.

OK, I'll postpone it to March 8th, which gives everyone another 2 weeks to get everything ready.

the ideal solution would be continuing this repository without forking. Would Intel be open to transferring ownership of the repository, domain, and/or website to another owner?

Doing that would require a substantial amount of work from our side, so I think if anyone's considering maintaining Crosswalk it's easier to just fork it and show their work to others. Which brings me to the main point that this issue has been open for ~1.5 years and nothing substantial in terms of open source maintainership has come out of it so far, and I do not think that transferring ownership to somebody else would solve anything.

[ks32]

Which brings me to the main point that this issue has been open for ~1.5 years and nothing substantial in terms of open source maintainership has come out of it so far, and I do not think that transferring ownership to somebody else would solve anything.

It will be great if any crosswalk team member can update Rebasing our forks guide or provide step by step tutorial so that novices can achieve this task.

[rakuco]

As far as I know the process is still the same for rebasing so I don't think there's anything to update.

[v3ss0n]

@rakuco , @ks32 had some oustanding work and we could use that to update crosswalk core.
we are spearheading the continuation of crosswalk development, can you hold this process till until we have a process going.

I was sick so i cannot keep in touch here.

[v3ss0n]

This issue has been open for ~1.5 years and nothing substantial in terms of open source maintainership has come out of it so far, and I do not think that transferring ownership to somebody else would solve anything

That would help us a lot , we could rebrand this , people can see crosswalk is still alive . There are many reasons that crosswalk is needed to be continued , webview current or future version will never be able to handle what croswalk does on android , so we have huge interest to keep this alive.

[rakuco]

As promised, it is time to close this issue -- see my explanation above for the reasons.

To be clear, we are not forbidding anyone from forking and updating the code, or discussing strategies for doing that, it's just that this issue has more than 150 comments about multiple approaches, and it doesn't look like this is going to change.