5.3.0 NO Support Brim anymore if 'Built Plate Adhesion' is set to 'None'

[discip]

Application Version

5.3.0

Platform

Manjaro

Printer

unrelated

Reproduction steps

1. In Support tick the box for Enable Support Brim.
2. In Built Plate Adhesion set Built Plate Adhesion Type to None

Actual results

The entire initial support - layer is missing.

Expected results

The first layer for supports should print even if Built Plate Adhesion Type is set to None as before!

Checklist of files to include

• Log file
• Project file

Additional information & file uploads

5.2.2

5.3.0

[GregValiant]

Thanks for the report.
I have seen this myself and I recall another bug report on this behavior (#14725).
I'll mark this as a duplicate report and the team will take a look at this.

[discip]

@GregValiant
Should I close this issue as it is a duplicate? (Sorry, I did't search before posting. 😓)

[GregValiant]

Let's leave it open. Sometimes the Cura team needs more examples of a problem in order to properly research it.

[fredlarochelle]

Can confirm, I have encountered the same problem. No support is printing on the first layer if Build Plate Adhesion Type is set to None, i.e., supports only starts printing on the second layer.

As a workaround, setting the Skirt Line Count seems to be tricking Cura 5.3 into working just fine (kinda print some segments of the skirt at some places tho, but it's fine).

I am on Fedora 37.

[pcairic]

I can confirm the issue in 5.3.0. Support brims are not printed. The UI setting has no discernable effect.

[RaptorTheOne]

I want to report that this issue also affects the plugins "Tab Anti Warping" and "Tab+ AntiWarping".
I spent 8 hours playing around with finding a workaround to have the 'Build plate adhesion' set to 'off', and nothing works.

Like the comment above, this is the workaround difference:

Tab Anti Warping with skirt enabled

Tab Anti Warping with skirt disabled

This also dramatically affects regular support stability with build plate adhesion set to 'off'. Here's an example of a support structure's first 3 layers. The blue layer shown here is the first layer. Subsequent support is printed mid-air.

[hellodosi]

I have already gone crazy, because I have searched all settings to find the error. Then I hope that this is quickly fixed. until then I print just a skirt also. then it works.

[discip]

@casperlamboo
@jellespijker
@MariMakes
Despite the fact that the brim has been improved in 5.4.0-beta1, this problem still persists!
Please fix this.

[MariMakes]

Hey all,

This seems to be a duplicate of #14983
We have a ticket on our backlog with the intent to improve this behavior. I'll raise it again with the team to see if we can increase the priority.

I'll be closing this issue as a duplicate but you can follow the progress here: #14983