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PS Community Call for November 19, 2020 #266

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joeyaiello opened this issue Nov 18, 2020 · 7 comments
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PS Community Call for November 19, 2020 #266

joeyaiello opened this issue Nov 18, 2020 · 7 comments

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@joeyaiello
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joeyaiello commented Nov 18, 2020

Please add topics and questions for the November 19, 2020 Community Call here.

Agenda:

  • PowerShell 7.1 GA
  • PowerShell 7.2 preview
  • update on updateable help pipeline
  • SecretManagement and SecretStore previews
  • PowerShellGallery update
  • VSCode extension stability
  • TBD
@kvprasoon
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Update about Working groups ? I see WG-* labels out there.

@iSazonov
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I would like to say a big thank to @xtqqczze for his great job modernizing PowerShell codebase (style, formatting, forcing analyzer rules).

@ThomasNieto
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ThomasNieto commented Nov 19, 2020

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Any plans to get overall better native exe support into 7.2 or is that an 8.0 thing?

@ili101
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ili101 commented Nov 19, 2020

Will there be a day when we will be able to copy paste random code from the internet like dig @8.8.8.8 github.com to PowerShell and it will just work?
Is this in the scope of PowerShell/PowerShell#1995?
If it is will it be merged in some point? as I understated it's a braking change but it will be a beneficial as it will make PowerShell compatible with all the other terminals like cmd and bash.

EDIT: @rkeithhill you beat me to it by a few seconds (:

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ThomasNieto commented Nov 19, 2020

Specifically about question marks as valid characters in variable names. Last community call the PS team indicated that they would be looking back into the issue. @mklement0 request is to reopen the issue as analysis of the PowerShell corpus found that virtually no one uses question marks in variable names.

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@ili101:

Is this in the scope of PowerShell/PowerShell#1995?

No, PowerShell/PowerShell#1995 is about fixing the broken argument-passing to external programs when you use PowerShell's syntax.

By contrast, PowerShell/PowerShell#13068 is what you're referring to: the ability to call a command that uses another shell's syntax without modification.

As seductive as that is, I think it is a dead end that will create more problems than it will solve, similar to the problematic --%.

Hence my suggestion to not fight PowerShell's syntax and instead provide an ins (Invoke-NativeShell) cmdlet that takes the command as a string: ins 'dig @8.8.8.8 github.com'

See PowerShell/PowerShell#13068 (comment), PowerShell/PowerShell#13068 (comment), and PowerShell/PowerShell#13068 (comment)

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