diff --git a/ovos_core/intent_services/__init__.py b/ovos_core/intent_services/__init__.py
index a22c518b333..9831b9511e4 100644
--- a/ovos_core/intent_services/__init__.py
+++ b/ovos_core/intent_services/__init__.py
@@ -15,14 +15,16 @@
 from collections import defaultdict
 from typing import Tuple, Callable, Union
 
-from ocp_pipeline.opm import OCPPipelineMatcher
 from ovos_adapt.opm import AdaptPipeline
+from ovos_commonqa.opm import CommonQAService
+from padacioso.opm import PadaciosoPipeline as PadaciosoService
+
+from ocp_pipeline.opm import OCPPipelineMatcher
 from ovos_bus_client.message import Message
 from ovos_bus_client.session import SessionManager
 from ovos_bus_client.util import get_message_lang
-from ovos_commonqa.opm import CommonQAService
 from ovos_config.config import Configuration
-from ovos_config.locale import setup_locale, get_valid_languages
+from ovos_config.locale import get_valid_languages
 from ovos_core.intent_services.converse_service import ConverseService
 from ovos_core.intent_services.fallback_service import FallbackService
 from ovos_core.intent_services.stop_service import StopService
@@ -31,7 +33,6 @@
 from ovos_utils.lang import standardize_lang_tag
 from ovos_utils.log import LOG, log_deprecation, deprecated
 from ovos_utils.metrics import Stopwatch
-from padacioso.opm import PadaciosoPipeline as PadaciosoService
 
 
 class IntentService:
@@ -92,6 +93,8 @@ def _load_pipeline_plugins(self):
                 LOG.info("padatious forcefully disabled in config")
             else:
                 from ovos_padatious.opm import PadatiousPipeline
+                if "instant_train" not in self.config["padatious"]:
+                    self.config["padatious"]["instant_train"] = False
                 self._padatious_service = PadatiousPipeline(self.bus, self.config["padatious"])
         except ImportError:
             LOG.error(f'Failed to create padatious intent handlers, padatious not installed')
diff --git a/ovos_core/skill_manager.py b/ovos_core/skill_manager.py
index eb333bda6ae..b2d2cb89884 100644
--- a/ovos_core/skill_manager.py
+++ b/ovos_core/skill_manager.py
@@ -16,7 +16,6 @@
 import os
 from os.path import basename
 from threading import Thread, Event, Lock
-
 from time import monotonic
 
 from ovos_bus_client.apis.enclosure import EnclosureAPI
@@ -118,8 +117,9 @@ def __init__(self, bus, watchdog=None, alive_hook=on_alive, started_hook=on_star
         self._logged_skill_warnings = list()
         self._detected_installed_skills = bool(find_skill_plugins())
         if not self._detected_installed_skills:
-            LOG.warning("No installed skills detected! if you are running skills in standalone mode ignore this warning,"
-                        " otherwise you probably want to install skills first!")
+            LOG.warning(
+                "No installed skills detected! if you are running skills in standalone mode ignore this warning,"
+                " otherwise you probably want to install skills first!")
 
         self.config = Configuration()
 
@@ -288,6 +288,7 @@ def load_plugin_skills(self, network=None, internet=None):
             network (bool): Network connection status.
             internet (bool): Internet connection status.
         """
+        loaded_new = False
         if network is None:
             network = self._network_event.is_set()
         if internet is None:
@@ -310,6 +311,8 @@ def load_plugin_skills(self, network=None, internet=None):
                 if not internet and requirements.internet_before_load:
                     continue
                 self._load_plugin_skill(skill_id, plug)
+                loaded_new = True
+        return loaded_new
 
     def _get_internal_skill_bus(self):
         """Get a dedicated skill bus connection per skill.
@@ -477,7 +480,7 @@ def _load_new_skills(self, network=None, internet=None, gui=None):
         # There is a possible race condition where this handler would be executing several times otherwise.
         with self._lock:
 
-            self.load_plugin_skills(network=network, internet=internet)
+            loaded_new = self.load_plugin_skills(network=network, internet=internet)
 
             for skill_dir in self._get_skill_directories():
                 replaced_skills = []
@@ -509,6 +512,20 @@ def _load_new_skills(self, network=None, internet=None, gui=None):
 
                 if skill_dir not in self.skill_loaders:
                     self._load_skill(skill_dir)
+                    loaded_new = True
+
+        if loaded_new:
+            LOG.info("Requesting padatious intent training")
+            try:
+                response = self.bus.wait_for_response(Message("mycroft.skills.train"),
+                                                      "mycroft.skills.trained",
+                                                      timeout=60)  # 60 second timeout
+                if not response:
+                    LOG.error("Padatious training timed out")
+                elif response.data.get('error'):
+                    LOG.error(f"Padatious training failed: {response.data['error']}")
+            except Exception as e:
+                LOG.exception(f"Error during padatious training: {e}")
 
     def _get_skill_loader(self, skill_directory, init_bus=True):
         """Get a skill loader instance.
diff --git a/requirements/lgpl.txt b/requirements/lgpl.txt
index f7e2afcd74f..a69b6b849b6 100644
--- a/requirements/lgpl.txt
+++ b/requirements/lgpl.txt
@@ -1,2 +1,2 @@
-ovos_padatious>=1.0.5, <2.0.0
+ovos_padatious>=1.1.0, <2.0.0
 fann2>=1.0.7, < 1.1.0