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Magazine's (community) default order on Mbin. #1174

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MrLuxuri opened this issue Oct 8, 2024 · 0 comments
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Magazine's (community) default order on Mbin. #1174

MrLuxuri opened this issue Oct 8, 2024 · 0 comments
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MrLuxuri commented Oct 8, 2024

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.
An issue with Mbin at the moment (kbin had the same issue) is that Mbin's default order shown in the "Magazine" section is as "Local and Federated" and I have to manually switch it to "local" and press search every time to be able to see local magazines made by other fellow community members, in the very server I am in and it resets to "Local and federated" by default if I reload or leave and go back to the page again.

Describe the solution you'd like
Like Lemmy, Local communities should be shown by default so that these smaller communities inside the server is visible to the user and are more likely to subscribe and check these communities out (instead the already massively tech related subs "Local and federated" ranks on the top), they should continue to be able to see other servers by switching to "Local and Federated", but Mbin has it the other way around and shows all communities from the federated servers with the most popular on top BY DEFAULT. This absolutely pushes away local communities from the server and manually switching it everytime is a pain while the first 1-2 if not 3 pages are filled with the most subscribed top communities (when using Local and federated default filter) that might not even cater to the user, prompting them to just use the search bar at that point to look for the community they are looking for.

Every server also has it's own local admin communities where announcements and etc is posted, again you can easily see this by default when you go to the community section on lemmy, and other new communities whenever they are created in the server, but right now Mbin chooses to show "Local and Federated" out of the box instead, which really isn't necessary when you can manually switch it from just "Local" to subscribe to the biggest communities that is less likely to change and then never mostly have to go back to it. Because let's say for example: Technology from lemmy.world, has 10k+ subscribers, more than any other tech sub from other servers and ranked top on "Local and federated", it will stay there most likely and is never going to leave it's top position unless people explicitly start unsubscribing the community for some reason which is very unlikely to happen.

In short words, Local community discovery is affected by this and should be the other way around similar to how every lemmy server is. (I am using thebrainbin.org).

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You could consider alternatives like letting users change this manually in settings and while that can be implemented additionally to the above solution, that doesn't substitute the above solution because the fundamental issue of showing "Local and Federated" by default is that you show the BIGGEST top 10 most subscribed communities, for example, that will never change, people don't have to go back to see them in the magazine section by default every time if they just subscribe to it once as they will start filling their homepage, the most biggest communities like those from lemmy.world for example, will never need to be shown by default everytime, they will never leave that top 10 spot.

Local communities on the other hand, can be fluctuating, new communities can be more easily discovered in Local and the visibility of smaller and admin's announcement and meta communities should be visible by default.

"Federated" filter is mostly used at the beginning to subscribe to some of the biggest communities at first, but then people mostly use search bar to search for their communities, because the federated filter fills the 1st and 2nd page with the most subscribed communities.

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Another issue that we must consider is how the "Local and federated" filter used by default affects admins who are potentially looking to start their own server in the fediverse and are debating between using Lemmy vs Mbin. Admins don't open servers to just have the biggest community on lemmy.world listed by default on top, on lemmy you will see thriving local communities with every server like beehaw.org, lemm.ee and lemmy.world, all of these guys do federate and you can subscribe to other communities outside the server using federation, but they also show local communities by default so the server has it's own communities and atmosphere, currently mbin feels like a node or extension to already popular servers like lemmy.world, with most of it's servers listed by default on top prompting no local organic server community growth.

@MrLuxuri MrLuxuri added the enhancement New feature or request label Oct 8, 2024
@BentiGorlich BentiGorlich added the needs feedback Requires a greater consensus to make an informed decision label Oct 14, 2024
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