diff --git a/src/map/latent_effect_container.cpp b/src/map/latent_effect_container.cpp
index ed643ea804f..e666d103e62 100644
--- a/src/map/latent_effect_container.cpp
+++ b/src/map/latent_effect_container.cpp
@@ -662,6 +662,13 @@ bool CLatentEffectContainer::ProcessLatentEffect(CLatentEffect& latentEffect)
     auto expression  = false;
     auto latentFound = true;
 
+    // this gets the current zone ID or destination zone ID if zoning
+    uint16 playerZoneID = m_POwner->getZone();
+    if (m_POwner == nullptr || playerZoneID == 0)
+    {
+        return false;
+    }
+
     // find the latent type from the enum and find the expression to tests againts
     switch (latentEffect.GetConditionsID())
     {
@@ -1040,26 +1047,30 @@ bool CLatentEffectContainer::ProcessLatentEffect(CLatentEffect& latentEffect)
         case LATENT::NATION_CONTROL:
         {
             // player is logging in/zoning
-            if (m_POwner->loc.zone == nullptr)
+            // checking the state of the user's current zone and
+            // the destination zone in tandem seems to work.
+            if (m_POwner->loc.zone == nullptr && static_cast<uint16_t>(m_POwner->loc.destination) == 0)
             {
                 break;
             }
 
-            auto region      = m_POwner->loc.zone->GetRegionID();
+            // Grab the user's destination if they're zoning.
+            // Otherwise, grab their current zone.
+            auto region      = m_POwner->loc.zone == nullptr ? zoneutils::GetCurrentRegion(m_POwner->loc.destination) : zoneutils::GetCurrentRegion(playerZoneID);
             auto hasSignet   = m_POwner->StatusEffectContainer->HasStatusEffect(EFFECT_SIGNET);
             auto hasSanction = m_POwner->StatusEffectContainer->HasStatusEffect(EFFECT_SANCTION);
             auto hasSigil    = m_POwner->StatusEffectContainer->HasStatusEffect(EFFECT_SIGIL);
-
+            auto regionAlwaysOutOfControl = zoneutils::IsAlwaysOutOfNationControl(region);
             switch (latentEffect.GetConditionsValue())
             {
                 case 0:
                     // under own nation's control
-                    expression = region < REGION_TYPE::WEST_AHT_URHGAN && conquest::GetRegionOwner(region) == m_POwner->profile.nation &&
+                    expression = region < REGION_TYPE::WEST_AHT_URHGAN && (!regionAlwaysOutOfControl || conquest::GetRegionOwner(region) == m_POwner->profile.nation) &&
                                  (hasSignet || hasSanction || hasSigil);
                     break;
                 case 1:
                     // outside of own nation's control
-                    expression = region < REGION_TYPE::WEST_AHT_URHGAN && m_POwner->profile.nation != conquest::GetRegionOwner(region) &&
+                    expression = region < REGION_TYPE::WEST_AHT_URHGAN && (regionAlwaysOutOfControl || m_POwner->profile.nation != conquest::GetRegionOwner(region)) &&
                                  (hasSignet || hasSanction || hasSigil);
                     break;
             }
@@ -1067,25 +1078,28 @@ bool CLatentEffectContainer::ProcessLatentEffect(CLatentEffect& latentEffect)
         }
         case LATENT::ZONE_HOME_NATION:
         {
+
             // player is logging in/zoning
-            if (m_POwner->loc.zone == nullptr)
+            // checking the state of the user's current zone and
+            // the destination zone in tandem seems to work.
+            if (m_POwner->loc.zone == nullptr && static_cast<uint16_t>(m_POwner->loc.destination) == 0)
             {
                 break;
             }
 
-            auto* PZone  = m_POwner->loc.zone;
-            auto  region = static_cast<REGION_TYPE>(latentEffect.GetConditionsValue());
+            auto  nationRegion = static_cast<REGION_TYPE>(latentEffect.GetConditionsValue());
+            auto  region = m_POwner->loc.zone == nullptr ? zoneutils::GetCurrentRegion(m_POwner->loc.destination) : zoneutils::GetCurrentRegion(playerZoneID);
 
-            switch (region)
+            switch (nationRegion)
             {
                 case REGION_TYPE::SANDORIA:
-                    expression = m_POwner->profile.nation == 0 && PZone->GetRegionID() == region;
+                    expression = m_POwner->profile.nation == 0 && region == nationRegion;
                     break;
                 case REGION_TYPE::BASTOK:
-                    expression = m_POwner->profile.nation == 1 && PZone->GetRegionID() == region;
+                    expression = m_POwner->profile.nation == 1 && region == nationRegion;
                     break;
                 case REGION_TYPE::WINDURST:
-                    expression = m_POwner->profile.nation == 2 && PZone->GetRegionID() == region;
+                    expression = m_POwner->profile.nation == 2 && region == nationRegion;
                     break;
                 default:
                     break;
diff --git a/src/map/utils/zoneutils.cpp b/src/map/utils/zoneutils.cpp
index 9c2148485e8..f1431276dfa 100644
--- a/src/map/utils/zoneutils.cpp
+++ b/src/map/utils/zoneutils.cpp
@@ -1212,4 +1212,9 @@ namespace zoneutils
         luautils::AfterZoneIn(PChar);
     }
 
+    bool IsAlwaysOutOfNationControl(REGION_TYPE region)
+    {
+        return region >= REGION_TYPE::SANDORIA && region <= REGION_TYPE::LIMBUS;
+    }
+
 }; // namespace zoneutils
diff --git a/src/map/utils/zoneutils.h b/src/map/utils/zoneutils.h
index b03ae335329..85c6e573e34 100644
--- a/src/map/utils/zoneutils.h
+++ b/src/map/utils/zoneutils.h
@@ -57,8 +57,9 @@ namespace zoneutils
     CCharEntity* GetChar(uint32 id);                              // returns pointer to character by id
     CCharEntity* GetCharToUpdate(uint32 primary, uint32 ternary); // returns pointer to preferred char to update for party changes
     void         ForEachZone(const std::function<void(CZone*)>& func);
-    uint64       GetZoneIPP(uint16 zoneid);       // returns IPP for zone ID
-    bool         IsResidentialArea(CCharEntity*); // returns whether or not the area is a residential zone
+    uint64       GetZoneIPP(uint16 zoneid);                      // returns IPP for zone ID
+    bool         IsResidentialArea(CCharEntity*);                // returns whether or not the area is a residential zone
+    bool         IsAlwaysOutOfNationControl(REGION_TYPE region); // returns true if a region should never trigger "in areas outside own nation's control" latent effect; false otherwise.
 
     void AfterZoneIn(CBaseEntity* PEntity); // triggers after a player has finished zoning in